Minutes of the Fall 2024 Meeting of the Legislative Staff Coordinating Committee in Denver
Oct. 19, 2024 | NCSL William Pound Building | Denver
The following officers and members were present:
Officers
- John Snyder, NCSL staff chair, Kentucky
- Lonnie Edgar, NCSL staff vice chair, Mississippi
- Sabrina Lewellen, immediate past NCSL staff chair, Arkansas
LSCC Members
- John Bjornson
- Jacque Bland
- Tom Bottern
- Taylor Boyer
- Natalie Castle
- Brett Ferguson
- Miriam Fordham
- Kirk Fulford
- Matt Gehring
- Leah Goldman
- Johnathan Harris
- Aurora Hauke
- John Heining
- Rob Hunt
- Cody Malloy
- Claudia Méndez Morales
- Michelle O'Brien
- Leslie Porter
- Jill Reinmuth
- Anthony Sammons
- Anne Sappenfield
- Tim Sekerak
- Shunti Taylor
- Betsy Theroux
- Will Tracy
- Joe Triem
- Erica Warren
- Rachel Weiss
- Andrea Wilko
- Shay Wilson
- Brad Young
Staff Chair John Snyder welcomed everyone to the meeting and thanked them for attending. Introductions followed.
NCSL CEO Report
Tim Storey welcomed LSCC members to NCSL headquarters and updated them on professional development meetings held since Summit. All were well attended; two associations have yet to hold theirs, LINCS and LSPA, which will be held at the NCSL headquarters building the Monday after the LSCC meeting. He thanked the Kentucky LSCC members for their support of the Summit, which saw 5,572 registrants—a 10% increase over Indianapolis that brought in strong revenue that helps to support NCSL operations. Reconciliation is ongoing, so final numbers won’t be available until the meeting in Salt Lake City in January. Legislative staff attendance at Summit increased to 941 in Louisville compared to 865 in Indianapolis. Dues payments continue to be strong, as 70% of chambers have paid currently. Upcoming for NCSL is the virtual NCSL Base Camp, which, Storey said, typically receives strong attendance from both legislative staff and legislators, with over 1,000 registered at this time.
Professional Staff Association Work Group
Matt Gehring (Minnesota) reported that the work group led with introductions and discussion of 2025 goals. The staff association history project for the 50th anniversary was discussed with updates from each group’s progress by the December 2024 deadline. Work continues, but all are on track for completion. The Profiles in Service project instructions were given to all staff associations, and they are choosing their nominations; nominees should be people not featured in other areas and who have been contributing members. This program is a vision of Sabrina Lewellen’s to recognize legislative staffers from around the country during the 50th anniversary celebration who were particularly instrumental in supporting state legislatures over the tenure of NCSL. Names will be submitted to the selection committee, and those selected will be interviewed and featured on the NCSL website along with being featured in social media posts.
Discussion on the Breezio platform was held with topics to bring to a joint meeting today with the IT Subcommittee and NCSL IT staff. The joint meeting is an effort to identify areas of concern with Breezio and to collaborate on possible improvements. Next, two subcommittees were created to look more closely at the Legislative Staff Exchange program and the uniform evaluation questions for professional development meetings. Those two groups will meet before Salt Lake City to report at the winter meeting. An area of concern for the professional staff associations is fundraising and keeping meetings affordable. Association officers would like to continue this conversation and felt the report on the strength of NCSL’s budget could be helpful in this area.
Standing Committee Officers Work Group
Miriam Fordham (Kentucky) and Andrea Wilko (Utah) reported that the work group started off with an icebreaker activity and then reviewed the 2024-2025 goals. The first agenda item discussed was brainstorming ideas to increase engagement by creating a Breezio channel for standing committee chairs to communicate through. Keeping the current committee rosters up to date was discussed, as was establishing further committees. A staff officer survey was sent to 40 people, and 21 responded. Participant satisfaction was again 8 out of 10, the same as last year, and the average number of years of service was 12, which is a decrease from previous years. There was general satisfaction with their relationship with NCSL, but some felt there could be improvement in the relationships between legislators and officers of other committees. There is confusion about what the staff chairs do, with suggestions that they be tapped more often as speakers for meetings and/or sessions. They would like to change the timeline of appointment for these positions so that incoming chairs can meet in person at Summit. Summit statistics were summarized: 900 staff attended Summit, 495 of them are active in NCSL, and 112 of those are members of the standing committees. This provides an opportunity to engage 442 people in this area. The question of how to get more people involved was brought up as well as discussion of how to reach younger staff to get a new generation involved.
Strategic Planning Work Group
Lonnie Edgar (Mississippi) reported that the work group opened with an icebreaker and followed with a review of staff chair goals. Using the 50th anniversary energy as an opportunity, discussion was had on how to look at the next 50 years of engagement with NCSL. How to connect with and engage younger and newer legislative staff, and how to meet their needs was a topic. The state liaison program was discussed and how to get state liaisons more involved with legislative staff in their states.
Artificial Intelligence Special Work Group
Jon Heining (Texas) introduced a presentation from NCSL’s Will Clark about the use of AI in legislative chambers with key points including data that 20% of legislative staff are using some form of generative AI in their work while 72% of offices lacked an AI usage policy. The group would like to conduct another survey that polls for AI best and worst practices. It would also like to specifically learn from NALIT and RELACS about their experiences and concerns about job displacement, data security, and maintaining an authentic voice in writing. Current use of AI includes automated transcription, HR application filtering and real-time closed captioning, with potential uses being automating constituent feedback, drafting legislation and flagging conflicting code. Next steps for the work group are survey question drafting, engagement of private sector partners and collecting AI policies. There was also a discussion of the degree to which the use of AI-generated information should be made transparent to consumers.
Legislative Institution Subcommittee
Chair John Bjornson (North Dakota) reported that the subcommittee held an icebreaker activity and followed with a review of the previous year’s work and subcommittee goals. The subcommittee discussed NCSL’s 50th anniversary celebration and how staff associations may have incorporated that into their annual PDS’s, and how to elevate anniversary celebrations at PDS’s in the coming year. Next was discussion of Legislative Staff Week, which occurs in May, and what elements can be added to the week on top of the webinars and other existing activities. How to introduce new legislative staff to NCSL by creating a toolkit or other document—such as a one-page—as well as hosting a landing page for new staff on the NCSL website for folks to learn how to become involved, were offered as ideas. Bjornson also stressed the importance of LSCC members helping newer staff to become involved with NCSL. The last topic, and one of the largest responsibilities of this subcommittee, is to review NCSL publications. The Legislative Litigation Toolkit needs to be reviewed by attorneys, potentially from RELACS, and is in process. The subcommittee noted the need to determine how to make legislative staff across the country aware of the resources NCSL has for their use.
Programs and Professional Development Subcommittee
Anne Sappenfield (Wisconsin) reported that the subcommittee had an update from NCSL on LSMI which was held in Denver last July, with NCSL taking a lead on planning and delivery for the first time since the contract with USC ended. The budget was reviewed and while not complete, it appears revenue will exceed expenses, and any excess funds will be rolled back into the program. There was a review of the full program evaluation and discussion of faculty and/or sessions that did not rank at the highest level, and the training team will be making improvements and modifications to these areas for the 2025 program. The subcommittee also reviewed feedback on legislative staff-specific sessions and the speakers hired to speak at Summit, specifically the Legislative Staff University, Salute to Legislative Staff and the Legislative Staff Breakfast. All these sessions ranked very high and were well received. There was a report on the Young and New Professionals group and its activities at Summit, which also were highly rated. Coming up at the winter meeting, we’ll hear a report on LSIE, and the LSMI selection process. Rachel Weiss has agreed to gather ideas for topics and speaker recommendations to consider for the 2025 Summit. The timeline on this goal is short since Summit session planning begins in December 2024.
Information Technology, Social Media, E-Learning and Outreach Subcommittee
Jonathan Harris (Kentucky) reported that the subcommittee discussed issues experienced by staff association members and their liaisons on communicating with members. Previously, there was direct communication between liaisons and their members, now those messages are directed through the communications team. The associations would like a more direct communication option between the liaisons and the members to provide more timely information sharing. There was discussion of liaisons having access to a communication tool themselves, rather than funneling to the communications team. There was discussion of having a new staff landing page to help drive engagement toward NCSL resources. There was also discussion of each association having an introductory document to send to new staff, and there was a request to be provided with a map of the NCSL website. Requests were made to provide information on the process for onboarding new staff into the NCSL system, and discussion about automating the exchange of staff information from states to NCSL. Also discussed was using an API for that information transfer and to be provided what is possible through NCSL systems. Lastly, a request was made to verify whether the NCSL Events app requires location tracking and photo sharing to function.
NCSL 50th Anniversary Special Subcommittee
Sabrina Lewellen (Arkansas) reported that the official kickoff of the NCSL 50th anniversary took place at Summit and the subcommittee received an update on activities to date. The official 50th anniversary webpage is functional and includes a video, interactive timeline, individual profiles, important articles and a special podcast series. To date, 37 states have adopted celebratory resolutions with the goal being 56. Upcoming, there will be a commemorative edition of State Legislatures magazine, a coffee table book, and continued work on the Staff Chair Oral History Project, the Profiles in Service project and the In Memoriam project.
Snyder expressed appreciation to everyone for traveling to Denver and for their service. He also stated he is looking forward to seeing everyone at the winter meeting in Salt Lake City. Meeting adjourned.