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Reflecting Pool

The Reflecting Pool

In the 1980s, a trio of legislative leaders helped develop NCSL's official bi-partisan position in favor of eliminating the federal deficit.

By Carl Tubbesing
February 6, 2008

Budget Blues and Reds
Richard Finan, Douglas Scamman and the late Warren Stambaugh form a mini-Pantheon of heroes for those of us who worked in the NCSL Washington office in the late 1980s. At the time, Finan was chair of the Ohio Senate Finance Committee, Scamman was speaker of the New Hampshire House of Representatives and Stambaugh was an up-and-coming member of the Finance Committee in the Virginia House of Delegates. They chaired NCSL's Budgets and Revenue Committee for three consecutive years and guided it through one of the most remarkable projects in the organization's history. This bi-partisan triumvirate audaciously decided that NCSL needed an official position in favor of eliminating the federal deficit. That was the easy part. Few members of the committee or anyone else, for that matter, thought a huge federal deficit was a good thing. The hard part was getting the committee—and, later, the rest of NCSL's members—to endorse a detailed blueprint for how the federal deficit should be eliminated.

It took over two years, but they managed, line by line, to pound out a comprehensive statement of how the federal deficit should be reduced and ultimately eliminated. It wasn't a parochial, self-interested polemic about why state programs should be protected while all the other components of the federal budget should be scrutinized. Rather, it said everything should be on the table. Everything meant everything—domestic programs, entitlements, military spending, even the big T word, taxes. There were fights about almost all of it. Veterans groups almost killed it at one point because they were worried about how military pensions would be affected. Farm groups didn't like it because of their commitment to commodity programs.

Adoption of the statement at the 1990 Annual Meeting in Nashville was a defining moment for NCSL's work with the national government. It gave us credibility and integrity and added to our stature in the intergovernmental community. It imposed restraint on us at budget time. It allowed us to say with pride that we—state legislatures, that is—didn't just have our hands out. It let us say to members of Congress that we understood their budget dilemmas, that we were reasonable and responsible.

Although the statement has morphed a good deal over the years, its principles and spirit still guide NCSL's work with Congress and the administration on the federal budget. When President Bush sent his FY 2009 budget proposal to Congress on Monday, our staff searched for the good stuff and the bad stuff and determined, as objectively as they could, that the bad news far out-weighed the good. Read the short analysis and you'll see more unfunded mandates, deep cuts in critical state-federal programs and additional cost shifts that may not meet the legal definition of an unfunded mandate, but really are.

That budget project of the late 1980s caused us to show restraint when, earlier this week, our leadership reacted publicly to the president's proposal. For example, Delaware Representative Donna Stone, NCSL's president, said that NCSL recognizes the need for the federal government to move to a balanced budget. Privately, though, some of us wonder why the burden for controlling the federal deficit seems to fall so heavily on state-federal programs. The answer, in large part, can be found in the handiwork of Senator Finan, Speaker Scamman and Delegate Stambaugh. They recognized that if Congress and the president weren't willing to put all of the major components of the federal budget on the table, then state-federal programs would be especially vulnerable. They and their colleagues were prescient, wise and correct.

Whither Stimulus?
You would think that when the nation's state legislators and governors team up on a plan for helping states through this economic downturn, federal officials would listen. So far, though, that hasn't been the case. NCSL and the National Governors Association have put forward strikingly similar proposals for inclusion in a recovery package. At the top of NCSL's list of eight options are providing discretionary grants to states and increasing the federal match for Medicaid—a pairing that NCSL helped secure in stimulus legislation that passed in 2003. In late January, the NGA Executive Committee approved a short policy statement that calls for a similar grant-Medicaid match rate combo.

Both organizations argue strongly that actions states have to take to balance their budgets will have the effect of deepening and prolonging the downturn. Both NCSL and NGA point out that the business depreciation provisions of the bill the House passed last week will exacerbate state budget problems by reducing revenues for states that couple their corporate tax provisions to the federal code. Both have had meetings with Speaker Nancy Pelosi's staff, White House officials and several U.S. Senators, but have not made much headway. Both worked with West Virginia Senator Jay Rockefeller, who prepared an amendment for consideration in the Senate Finance Committee. We persuaded 30 senators to sign onto a letter supporting Senator Rockefeller's amendment. Despite this strong support from his colleagues, Senator Rockefeller deferred to the wishes of the Senate Finance Chair, Montana Senator Max Baucus, and decided not to offer the amendment during the mark-up.

There are two primary reasons why legislators and governors have not had success with their packages. One is the reluctance of Senate leadership to push their stimulus bill too far beyond the parameters established by Speaker Pelosi, House Minority Leader John Boehner and President Bush in their negotiations two weeks ago. The Senate leaders are trying to say "no" to as much as they can so the bill the Senate approves can pass muster with the House and the administration. The other is that, as bad as the economy appears to be, the effects of the downturn are still spotty. Some states are in really bad shape; others are showing substantial budget surpluses. Although that's good news for states with bright budget pictures, it makes it harder to persuade 60 U.S. senators that state assistance should be part of the bill.

All is not totally bleak, though. The Senate stimulus bill currently includes two provisions that would be helpful to states. One would temporarily extend unemployment benefits. The other would add $1 billion in low-income energy assistance funds. In addition, there continue to be rumors of the possibility of a second stimulus bill, which would come up later this year. That second bill might be the vehicle that legislators and governors need to pass their discretionary grant and Medicaid match rate package.

State of the Union Hubris and Hugs
A few weeks ago, NCSL's Immediate Past President, Texas Senator Leticia Van de Putte got a call from Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Speaker Pelosi wanted to know if Senator Van de Putte would be willing to offer the Spanish language response to President Bush's final State of the Union address. Senator Van de Putte's response? How long do you think it took to say, "I'd be honored?"

A few days later, NCSL's President, Delaware Representative Donna Stone, got a call from Speaker Pelosi's office asking her to join Senator Van de Putte and the speaker's other guests in the House gallery for the president's address. How long do you think it took for Representative Stone to say, "I'd be honored?"

All of this was unprecedented. It was unprecedented to have a state legislator give a nationally-televised response to a State of the Union address. It was unprecedented to have an NCSL officer, not to mention two NCSL officers, sit in the gallery for the State of the Union. Needless to say, both Senator Van de Putte and Representative Stone were unprecedentedly thrilled. Afterwards, they talked about being impressed with the grandeur of the occasion and they remarked on the many subplots taking place on the House floor—mostly involving celebrity senators. They counted the hugs they got from Speaker Pelosi—six, by the way. They said, too, that, although they felt honored by the invitation, it really was a recognition of the importance of state legislatures in the federal system. Hear, hear.

Senator Van de Putte's response was carried on Univision and Telemundo. It's also on YouTube,
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Van+de+Putte&search_type=&search=Search  

Carl Tubbesing is the deputy executive director of NCSL.